Summary of Frank G Lasee: The Truth of Energy & Climate | Tom Nelson Pod #129

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Frank G Lasee, President of the Heartland Institute of Truth and Energy and Climate, is deeply skeptical of the prevailing climate narrative, which he believes is being used to advance expensive and harmful energy policies. He argues that energy is the foundation of civilization and that reliable and affordable energy is necessary for improving lives and protecting the environment. Lasee highlights the positive impacts of energy on food production, economic prosperity, and overall well-being. He disputes the feasibility of transitioning to renewable energy sources within the next 25 years and criticizes the limitations and costs associated with wind and solar power. Lasee also discusses the importance of maintaining traditional energy sources such as coal, oil, and natural gas to ensure abundant and affordable fuel for current freedoms and lifestyles. He concludes by emphasizing the need for informed choices based on facts when it comes to energy and climate policy.

00:00:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee, President of the Heartland Institute of Truth and Energy and Climate, discusses the importance of energy and its relationship to climate. He argues that the climate narrative is being used to drive expensive and harmful energy policies, which go against the goal of making life better for everyone, including the poor. Lasee emphasizes that energy is a foundation of civilization and is necessary for improving lives and protecting the environment. He also highlights the positive impact of energy on food production, economic prosperity, and the overall well-being of individuals. Lasee urges people to consider the facts and make informed choices regarding energy and climate policy.
00:05:00 In this section, Frank G. Lasee discusses the increase in cereal yield and overall crop production due to advancements in farming techniques and the understanding of growing. He highlights the importance of fossil fuels, such as coal, oil, and natural gas, which provide the majority of the world's energy. Lasee emphasizes that reliable and affordable energy is essential for modern living, including access to life-saving medical equipment. He also mentions the importance of caring for those in developing countries who lack access to energy, as it affects their basic needs and well-being. Lasee believes that there are abundant reserves of coal, oil, and natural gas, and suggests that the Earth may continue to produce natural gas, making it an unlimited and clean source of fuel. However, he acknowledges that fossil fuel availability is artificially limited by politicians, policies, and financial institutions, leading to higher energy costs and potential shortages.
00:10:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses how energy prices directly impact food prices and mentions the negative consequences of abruptly ending the use of fertilizers in Sri Lanka. He also highlights the energy crisis in South Africa, where electricity is only available for 12 hours a day despite the country having substantial coal deposits. Lasee points out that while wind and solar energy are growing, they currently make up only two percent of the world's energy supply, with coal, oil, and natural gas providing the majority. He argues that it is not feasible to completely shift to renewable energy sources within the next 25 years. Additionally, Lasee mentions an interesting observation made by an economist that links oil consumption to global GDP growth. Climate alarmists, according to Lasee, are even proposing ideas of degrowth and depopulation as solutions to climate change.
00:15:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses the importance of abundant and affordable fuel for maintaining our current freedoms and lifestyles. He highlights that coal is used for various purposes, including heating, electricity, and the production of steel, cement, and synthetic fuels. Lasee also emphasizes the significance of oil, with 98% of transportation being oil-dependent and the United States alone using 20 million barrels of oil each day. Additionally, he mentions the use of natural gas in electricity generation and the numerous everyday products that are made from oil, coal, and natural gas. Lasee argues that a transition to a net-zero world could hamper the availability of these vital materials and impact our ability to preserve and enhance our way of life.
00:20:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses how electricity usage in the United States has not significantly grown in the past 23 years despite investing billions of dollars in additional capacity. This is due to increased efficiency in technology and appliances. Lasee also explains that both electricity and hydrogen are secondary energy sources that need to be made by something else, and hydrogen is an expensive and inefficient way to store energy. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a near-perfect balance on the electric grid and highlights the limitations of wind and solar power, including their low capacity factors and intermittent nature. Lasee argues that nuclear power, which operates at a consistent capacity, should be expanded.
00:25:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses the challenges of relying solely on wind and solar energy for power. He criticizes proponents of renewable energy for failing to provide a solution for powering grids on cold, dark, and windless nights. Lasee also highlights the inefficiencies of transmitting electricity over long distances and the additional costs associated with it. He uses the example of California receiving coal-fired power from Utah, which incurs a loss of electricity during transmission. Lasee then points out the vulnerability of wind and solar energy during extreme weather conditions, such as hot, humid, and windless days in New York. He uses the Texas power outage as an example of the limitations of renewable energy, noting that wind and solar production was minimal and natural gas plants had to be ramped up to meet demand. Lasee also criticizes the decision to switch from natural gas to electricity for heating pipelines, which exacerbated the problem. He concludes by mentioning the environmental impact of wind towers, such as the cutting down of trees and the inability to recycle the metal components.
00:30:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee argues that sustainable and renewable energy sources such as wind and solar are actually expensive because they are only part-time sources of power. In order to have full-time power, we have to continue paying for traditional sources like natural gas, coal, and nuclear plants. Lasee believes that closing down these plants too quickly is a problem for national and economic security. He also criticizes the subsidies that wind and solar receive, arguing that they are not actually cheaper and that electric users end up paying the highest rates for their electricity generation. Lasee compares this to a hypothetical scenario where Amazon only uses subsidized solar truck companies for deliveries, resulting in higher costs for consumers. He concludes by suggesting that our electricity rates should be cheaper due to cheaper natural gas prices from fracking, and that the money spent on wind and solar could be used for other priorities.
00:35:00 In this section, the speaker argues that relying on wind and solar energy is expensive and will lead to a significant increase in electric rates. They also point out that countries like China, India, and Africa are building coal plants and not using clean coal technology. The speaker explains that coal and natural gas plants need to be kept running all the time for on-demand electricity, which increases costs. They argue that wind and solar energy will not be able to meet the demand and would require massive infrastructure investments. Additionally, the speaker doubts the feasibility of hydrogen as an alternative, citing issues with limited resources and the energy-intensive process of producing and storing it.
00:40:00 In this section, Frank G. Lasee discusses the issue of using pink hydrogen, made from nuclear power, as an alternative energy source. He points out that the process of converting nuclear power into hydrogen would result in a 35% energy loss and highlights the lack of hydrogen infrastructure and the technical issues associated with it. Lasee criticizes the government's allocation of $9 billion for this endeavor, citing the expensive cost of building the necessary infrastructure. He also mentions the environmental concerns surrounding hydrogen production, as the majority of hydrogen is currently made from fossil fuels. Lasee further argues against the feasibility of transitioning to renewable energy sources, citing the high costs and the metals required for the production of wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries. He highlights the reliability issues with part-time wind and solar energy and the negative impacts of transitioning away from coal and natural gas too quickly. Finally, he mentions the consequences of California's energy policy and its high electricity costs. Overall, Lasee suggests that the transition to renewable energy is not practical and warns of potential problems that could arise as a result.
00:45:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses the energy and climate policies of China and India. He highlights that China is the largest producer of coal, emitting more CO2 than the next 29 industrialized countries combined. India also heavily relies on coal for energy, as they have millions of people without access to electricity. Lasee argues that both countries are using coal as part of their strategy to improve the lives of their people and that the environment in India is actually improving due to industrialization taking pressure off natural resources. He also mentions that even in Europe, coal usage is increasing, with Germany tearing down wind towers to expand a coal mine. Lasee argues that climate always changes and disputes the idea that reducing CO2 emissions would lead to fewer weather events. He presents temperature and CO2 data from the past 450,000 years and 600 million years to show that there isn't a long-term relationship between CO2 and temperature. Lasee criticizes the censorship and disappearance of information and people who question the climate narrative, comparing it to the censorship that occurred in Europe leading up to World War II.
00:50:00 In this section, the speaker discusses the relationship between temperature and carbon dioxide (CO2) levels, stating that the data from ice cores show that temperature actually precedes CO2, contrary to what was presented in Al Gore's climate change movie. They explain that during glacial periods, CO2 levels follow the drop in temperature, and attribute this to the principle that colder liquids can hold more dissolved gas than warmer liquids. The speaker also mentions the role of the sun in warming the equator, causing the oceans to evaporate and create weather patterns. They argue that the current climate is in a wavy period, and criticize the media for only reporting on warm temperatures while ignoring the cold temperatures occurring simultaneously. They acknowledge that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but claim that the warming effect diminishes with increased CO2 concentration, suggesting that doubling or tripling CO2 levels will have minimal impact on global warming. The speaker also highlights that only 12% of the increase in atmospheric CO2 since 1750 is caused by human activity, with the rest being naturally released through processes like rotting and termites. They suggest that planting more trees and making the Earth greener could lead to more CO2 recycling and oxygen production. Lastly, they challenge the claim that the Earth is currently experiencing record-high temperatures, arguing that this is false and that earlier IPCC reports had graphs similar to those showing the historical variability of climate.
00:55:00 In this section, Frank G. Lasee discusses the idea that warmer times are actually better for humanity, citing examples such as the Roman Empire, the Medieval Warm Period, and the Vikings settling in Greenland. He argues that it was warmer in the past and that studies from around the world support this claim. Lasee also mentions the discovery of trees and artifacts from previous warm periods as glaciers recede. He criticizes the Michael Mann hockey stick graph for allegedly cherry-picking data to deny the existence of the Medieval Warm Period. Lasee argues that the real trend is not global warming but rather a milder and less cold world with less temperature extremes, attributing this to the role of clouds in reflecting sunlight and regulating temperatures. He presents a graph comparing April temperatures from 1895 to 2023 to support his argument that it was actually warmer in the past.

01:00:00 - 01:35:00

Frank G Lasee, in this YouTube video, expresses his skepticism towards climate change and presents various arguments to challenge the mainstream narrative. He accuses NOAA of manipulating temperature records and provides examples of historical temperature fluctuations to argue that current warming is not unprecedented. Lasee also dismisses concerns about rising sea levels, coral reef depletion, and the impact of climate change on extreme weather events. He emphasizes the importance of understanding climate through physics and the interactions of Earth's systems. Lasee concludes by suggesting that climate change is more about money, power, and control than scientific facts, and warns against the limitations and costs associated with addressing it.

01:00:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses his skepticism towards climate data and accuses NOAA of manipulating temperature records to fit a narrative. He presents a graph showing the recorded temperature (blue line) and the adjusted data (red line), claiming that NOAA cooled the past to make it seem like temperatures are increasing. Lasee also mentions the urban heat island effect, stating that temperatures in cities are artificially warmer due to concrete buildings and other factors. He argues that NOAA's temperature stations are now located in suburban areas instead of rural ones, further distorting the data. Lasee presents newspaper articles from the early 1900s to show that there were instances of high temperatures in the past, challenging the idea that current warming is unprecedented. He points out that Tony Heller, who also questions climate change, provides further evidence of historical temperature fluctuations.
01:05:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee argues that the claim of increasing heat across the country is false, stating that North America has a robust system of temperature gauges, but only 800 out of 1218 are active, with the other 400 temperatures being made up by a computer program. He also suggests that the data on temperature records is not accurate or highly robust until around 1950. Lasee then argues that CO2 is not a cause for concern as it is beneficial for plant growth and attributes a significant increase in Greening to the higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. He highlights that water vapor and clouds make up a larger percentage of the greenhouse effect than CO2 and asserts that solving future problems with current technology is not a good idea. Finally, he emphasizes that understanding climate is about physics and the interactions of the Earth's systems.
01:10:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee discusses some misconceptions about the role of water vapor as a greenhouse gas and the supposed correlation between CO2 levels and the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere. He points out that just because it gets hotter in certain areas like Death Valley or the Sahara, it doesn't mean that there is automatically more water vapor present. Lasee also mentions that the equator, which isn't warming significantly, has a high saturation point for water vapor and is less likely to experience freezing temperatures during winter, making it beneficial for Florida's winter growing season. He goes on to debunk claims about rising sea levels, presenting data that shows minimal increases and even growth in some ocean islands. Lasee also dismisses concerns about coral reefs dying off due to warmer waters, stating that some coral reefs actually prefer warmer temperatures and that a slight warming can be beneficial for coral growth. Moreover, he challenges the idea that climate alarmism is based on reality, providing examples of how predictions about crop failures and political chaos have not materialized. He also highlights the fact that food production has increased and more people are eating better than ever in history, contrary to the doom and gloom narratives put forth by climate alarmists. Finally, Lasee mentions that there is no global trend in floods or droughts, further undermining the claims made by the IPCC.
01:15:00 In this section, the speaker presents data and examples to counter the narrative that extreme weather events, such as droughts, tornadoes, hurricanes, forest fires, and changes in snow and ice coverage, are worsening due to climate change. The speaker argues that historical records show that these events have always occurred and that recent trends do not support the claims of increasing severity. They also highlight the importance of forest management practices, such as controlled burns, in preventing wildfires and criticize California's policies in this regard.
01:20:00 In this section, Frank G Lasee highlights some points about climate change and the relationship between sea ice and temperature. He claims that there is an inverse relationship between the expansion of sea ice in Antarctica and the contraction of sea ice in the North Pole. Furthermore, he argues that water vapor, not CO2, is the most abundant and important greenhouse gas. Lasee also criticizes the emphasis on CO2 in climate change discussions, stating that only a small fraction of greenhouse gases come from human activity. He questions the validity of the claim that CO2 is the primary driver of climate change and argues that there is not a strong long-term relationship between CO2 levels and temperature. Lasee references the opinions of climate skeptics such as John Coleman and Michael Crichton to support his arguments against the mainstream consensus. He concludes by suggesting that the peer review process in climate science is flawed and that dissenting viewpoints are often suppressed.
01:25:00 In this section, Frank G. Lasee expresses his skepticism towards climate change, claiming that scientists who do not conform to the mainstream narrative lose funding and face career repercussions. He argues that climate change is actually about money, power, and control, with the intention of redistributing resources. Lasee believes that the facts do not support the catastrophic claims of climate change and views it as a mental illness or a religion. He cites examples of policies proposed by various countries that could lead to food shortages and increased costs, which he deems as evil. Furthermore, he suggests that the focus should be on capitalism and the need for reliable, affordable, and abundant energy, as well as a good food supply. Lasee sees climate change as a dangerous tool used by leftists to control every aspect of people's lives, while exempting themselves from the limitations they impose on others. He warns against a return to a society where the wealthy live lavishly while the rest struggle and advocates for more people to enjoy a higher standard of living.
01:30:00 In this section, the speaker discusses the potential implementation of a carbon allotment system where individuals are given a certain amount of CO2 allowance per month. Those who use less can sell their excess credits, while wealthier individuals can buy more. However, middle-class individuals may face limitations on their consumption, such as no beer, meat, cheese, or gas, once they exhaust their CO2 allotment. The speaker argues that proponents of this system ultimately desire de-growth and depopulation. They also highlight the lack of data supporting the climate emergency and claim that CO2 is not the driving force behind climate change. The speaker believes that the energy transition is unnecessary and will lead to higher costs, energy insecurity, and shortages. They call for more awareness and rational discussion on the topic.
01:35:00 In this section, the speaker discusses the public opinion on climate change and the costs associated with addressing it. They highlight that while some people are already aware and skeptical of the issue, there are also many who are uninformed. According to the speaker, polling shows that a majority of Americans acknowledge climate change but are unwilling to bear the financial burden of addressing it. They argue that the costs of climate change policies are already embedded in everyday expenses, but people are unaware of it. The speaker also criticizes the media for branding those who question the link between climate change and human activity as "deniers" and disregarding their opinions. They suggest that there is an orchestrated effort to manipulate climate data and that increased CO2 levels actually have positive effects on the Earth. Instead of investing in renewable energy, the speaker believes that resources should be dedicated to improving quality of life and exploring other scientific advancements like space exploration.