Summary of Lois Perry: Fighting for energy/climate realism in the U.K. | Tom Nelson Pod #118

00:00:00 - 00:45:00

Lois Perry, founder of Carbonsink, discusses her organization's promotion of climate realism and skepticism about the role of CO2 in climate change. Perry shares her collaboration with the Heartland Institute, and mentions her stance on nuclear power and the negative impact of net zero movements. She also highlights the authoritarian measures being put in place by the UK government, and the unfairness of low-traffic neighborhoods. Perry questions the lack of public consultation and the disproportionate impact of these measures on the working class. Additionally, she discusses her anti-net zero campaign group, Car 26, and hopes that sanity will prevail in the future. Perry believes that politicians privately hold different beliefs regarding climate change than what they publicly express and notes that there has been a recent change in public opinion towards net-zero policies in the UK.

• 00:00:00 In this section, Lois Perry discusses the recent polling in the UK which shows that the British public is less concerned about climate change and more focused on other issues. She attributes this shift in mindset to the work of her organization, Carbonsink, which promotes climate realism and skepticism about the role of CO2 in climate change. Perry also mentions her collaboration with the Heartland Institute in the US and her involvement in events such as the Reform Party Conference, where she received positive feedback and support for her views. Additionally, she emphasizes the importance of free speech and being advocates of Libertarianism, as well as promoting merchandise such as badges with the message that CO2 is not a problem.
• 00:05:00 In this section, Lois Perry discusses her organization's new badge campaign to counter the well-funded merchandising of the other side. She also reveals that her exclusion from GB News Talk TV, a UK news program, is being seen as a badge of honor, adding that she is considering sending out stickers sporting her name to those who want to repel the Extinction Rebellion protesters. Perry also shares her analysis of Jim Dale, a weather forecaster who believes that CO2 is the climate control knob, saying that he hasn't dug deep into the data and that he doesn't know where his carbon offset money is going, calling it a scam. She also shares her thoughts on her recent debate with Stanley Johnson, the father of the UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, saying that she used humor and reason to counter his argument effectively, which made her more dangerous to their argument.
• 00:10:00 In this section, Lois Perry talks about her organization's objective to promote analysis and reason in creating a climate debate. She cites polling data that revealed most people prioritize their cost of living over Net Zero targets, and many people don't even know what Net Zero is. Perry also shares a House of Lords report that one of the ways to modify people's behavior towards Net Zero is to annoy them enough to make them stop trying. She shares that the Civil Service is planning for an 80% reduction in car ownership in 15 years, which will significantly reduce people's personal freedom. Perry highlights that the UK enshrined its Net Zero commitment in law and signed a trade cooperation agreement with the EU that commits not to watering down the Net Zero target.
• 00:15:00 In this section, Perry discusses the irrationality of labeling natural gas as a "transition fuel" and the absurdity of relying on coal due to solar panels not being able to handle the heat. She expresses frustration with the "lunatics running the asylum" and the negative impact their decisions have on individuals. Despite this, Perry notes a trend in young people waking up to the lies being told to them and questioning authority. She also discusses her work with scientists such as Brian Kat and the benefits of having retired individuals analyze data without fear of being canceled or losing research grants.
• 00:20:00 In this section, Lois Perry discusses her collaboration with the Heartland Institute to promote climate realism and skepticism. She shares that they are in talks to do an event together in the UK and to be involved in their climate conferences. Perry is excited about the collaboration as she believes that close collaboration between climate skeptic organizations is important. Additionally, they are collaborating on the polling for climate lockdowns. Perry also mentions her stance on nuclear power, saying that it has to be part of a mix. She is critical of everything being electric as it would be remotely switchable and could cause problems if linked to digital IDs. Lastly, she talks about the 15-minute cities concept which is making advances in the UK, including in Oxford, Cambridge, and Canterbury.
• 00:25:00 In this section, Lois Perry discusses the current situation in the UK with regards to energy and climate policies. She talks about the authoritarian measures that are being put in place, such as the division of cities into sectors where people can only leave their sector with permission. She also mentions the low-traffic neighborhoods and the European Union's Ultra Low Mission Zone which will cost people £15-20 a day to drive their cars. According to her, these measures disproportionately target the working class and cause difficulty for people trying to make a living. She questions the lack of public consultation and sees it as a sign of totalitarianism. Lois believes that there might be a revolution before such measures are imposed across the UK. However, she hopes that everything will be done peacefully.
• 00:30:00 In this section, Lois Perry discusses the unfairness of low traffic neighborhoods and the negative impact of net zero movements on the planet. Perry describes her anti-net zero campaign group, Car 26, whose aim is to fight against the globalist effort to achieve a totalitarian reset of the earth. She talks about her experience in the UK and how she went to Blackpool to interview local residents and business owners to get their views on the fracking ban. She narrates a heart-wrenching story of a young girl who resorted to prostitution because her fridge had no electricity due to the ban. Perry questions why the UK is importing gas from other countries and using wind turbines that cause sleep and hearing problems instead of allowing fracking that could provide free electricity for many.
• 00:35:00 In this section, activist Lois Perry discusses the lack of support from the UK government for the fracking industry and the misinformation campaign that led to the fracking moratorium. Perry highlights the investment, jobs, and educational facilities created by the industry and expresses hope that sanity will prevail in the future. She also addresses the earthquake argument against fracking, stating there is no data to support it and that it is merely a propaganda tool. Perry speaks about her discussions with lawmakers regarding climate change and data, noting that they are often more willing to discuss privately than publicly.
• 00:40:00 In this section, Lois Perry, founder of The Forum for Climate and Energy Realism, discusses how many politicians hold different beliefs privately than what they publicly express regarding climate change. She notes that her organization does not lobby but provides information to lawmakers. Perry highlights that there has been a recent change in the public opinion of net-zero policies in the UK. Boris Johnson and other politicians have been seen flip-flopping on their stance towards climate change, even with Johnson previously being accused of being too invested in net-zero policies. Perry also mentions that Liz Truss has recently spoken publicly against net-zero, indicating that politicians may be changing their views on climate change to align with public sentiment.
• 00:45:00 In this section, the speaker discusses the reasons behind the sudden eviction of Liz Truss from her position and asserts that it was due to her desire for a high growth, low tax economy in contrast to the high tax, highly controlled Socialist Communist State wanted by those who removed her. They used the market fluctuations during this time to blame her budget and make her look economically reckless and claimed that this untenability led to her eviction. The speaker recommends a website to get a better understanding of the issue and emphasizes that they are fighting back against climate change.